>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kelry Loi [mailto:
kelryloi@hku.hk]
>Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 4:11 AM
>To: 'Lionel Smith, Prof.'
>Cc: 'ODG'
>Subject: RE: Beneficial owners can sue for negligently-caused
>economic loss to property
>
>Dear colleagues,
>
>Negligence
>
>Following Lionel's point, the tortfeasor's duty of care is owed to the
>trustee, not beneficiary. Thus, the tortfeasor ought to compensate the
>trustee (not beneficiary) for the trustee's (not
>beneficiary's) loss, though
>the trustee has to account to the beneficiary for the recovery.
>
>Joining the trustee to the action allows the process to be
>shortcircuited.
>But that is just the process; it might change the party who is paid. It
>shouldn't change the amount that the tortfeasor has to fork
>out. What he
>pays the trustee/beneficiary should be the loss suffered by
>the trustee (for
>which the trustee accounts to the beneficiary); not the (greater) loss
>suffered by the beneficiary.
>
>Conversion
>
>Prof Andrew Tettenborn has a piece ((1996) 55 CLJ 36) questioning a
>beneficiary's right to sue in conversion (cited by the CA in
>MCC Proceeds v
>Lehman Bros [1998] 4 All ER 675). MCC Proceeds referred to The Aliakmon
>[1986] AC 785 as authority denying a beneficiary's right to sue in
>negligence, and that was regarded as one of the factors for denying a
>beneficiary's right to sue in conversion. Does it now mean that
>beneficiaries should be allowed to sue in conversion too?
>
>Happy holidays!
>
>Kelry.
>
>(Mr) Kelry C.F. Loi
>Asst Prof, Faculty of Law
>University of Hong Kong.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lionel Smith, Prof. [mailto:
lionel.smith@mcgill.ca]
>Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 6:18 AM
>To: Jason Neyers; Colin Liew
>Cc: ODG
>Subject: Re: Beneficial owners can sue for negligently-caused
>economic loss
>to property
>
>Jason's two points are intimately linked.
>The rights against rights theory says that the beneficiary's right is a
>right in or against the trustee's ownership of the asset. The
>beneficiary
>does not have any direct right against the tortfeasor, who
>owes a duty of
>care to the trustee.
>If however the trustee is joined as a party, then it becomes
>possible to
>adjudicate his right against the tortfeasor, and also his
>obligation to the
>beneficiary to account for the recovery to the beneficiary. If
>all parties
>are joined, then a court can make an order that short circuits the two
>claims.
>Lionel
>
>
>On 31-03-10 15:32 , "Jason Neyers" <
jneyers@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
>Dear Colleagues:
>
>I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts about this case. I
>suppose one's
>view might depend ultimately on how one views the rights enjoyed by the
>equitable owner. If they are simply "rights against rights" as
>I have heard
>argued at the various Obligations conferences, then the
>decision appears
>wrongly decided.
>
>I was also a little surprised with the ease that the Court of Appeal
>side-stepped The Aliakmon: what difference in justice is made when the
>legal owner is joined?
>Jason Neyers
>Associate Professor of Law
>Faculty of Law
>University of Western Ontario
>N6A 3K7
>(519) 661-2111 x. 88435
>
>
>Colin Liew wrote:
>Dear all,
>
>
>
>The English Court of Appeal in Shell UK Ltd & Ors v Total UK Ltd & Ors
>[2010] EWCA Civ 180
><
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2010/180.html>
>has decided (at [142]) that a duty of care is owed to a
>beneficial owner of
>property by a defendant who can reasonably foresee that his negligent
>actions will damage that property. If, therefore, such property is, in
>breach of duty, damaged by the defendant, that defendant will
>be liable not
>merely for the physical loss of that property but also for the
>foreseeable
>consequences of that loss, such as the extra expenditure to which the
>beneficial owner is put or the loss of profit which he incurs.
>Provided that
>the beneficial owner can join the legal owner in the
>proceedings, it does
>not matter that the beneficial owner is not himself in
>possession of the
>property.
>
>
>
>
>The appeal arose out of the 2005 Buncefield fire where, due to the
>negligence of Total (as found by David Steel J in March 2009),
>substantial
>damage was caused to the Hertfordshire Oil Storage Terminal.
>At issue in
>this appeal, however, was whether Shell could claim damages
>against Total in
>respect of economic losses caused to it as beneficial owner of land and
>facilities at Buncefield.
>
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Colin
>
>
>